ROTK book (not movie)

[Liathwen]

Ok. Here you can discuss the book. NOT THE MOVIE! It'll be easier to keep them seperate so we won't confuse anyone! ;D So, I think one of my favorite parts of the book was the Houses of Healing. Eowyn and Faramir grew close in that part of the book. To tell the truth I felt soory for Eowyn, about Aragorn. You know. I like the part where she says that she is "yielding to spring". She is rather like a flower, come to think of it. I talk too much! oops...

[Sir_Manbechir]

Aiya,
I like the book alot more than the movies, and think that you can never make a movie about a book and make it as goo ( although you can make it pretty doggone good! ). that's my view. any comments?

[Legolas]

I have to agree with you Manbechir. I think that my favorite part in the book was... the entire thing
Hehehe no really, my favorite part was when Arwen found out about you-know-what I read that part at least 5 times before I went on.

§ Legolas §

[Lady Elianna Tar-Minyatur]

What was it Arwen found out?

*hits self on head for asking stupid question*

I probably know what your talking about, and as soon as you tell me I am going to be going 'what an idiot' to myself... but all my creative jucies, memory, and everything else has been zapped...

[Arandur]

Her child?....

[Nenyede]

*blink blink*


I would have to say, my fav part is probably when Eowyn pulls off her Helment, and everyone finds out that shes not a guy, and then stabs the Which King of Agmar, its so sad when Theoden dies though, I wish he didn't oh well, can't change what Tolkien wrote!

[Sir_Manbechir]

if i had to chose a specific part, it would have to be....the scouring of the shire. i dont like it because of the condition of the shire, but because the hobbits ( like the ents, in a way ) come "alive" and fight back! that was awesome!

[Liathwen]

That was my fav part too! I think....

[Sir_Manbechir]

don't try to think too hard.

[Liathwen]

I'm glad you don't expect to much!

[Leggy]

Yeah I liked Scouring of the Shire, it was a good chapter especially when Saruman and Wormtongue die, that was my favorite part of THAT chapter.

[Sir_Manbechir]

Now lets not forget the words that tolkien himself said. It is not a happy thing wormtongue, and saruman dying. no there is no joy in killing anything, save that which is evil. and they were once good, so they might have turned back.

[Aredhel]

Manberu said:

Now lets not forget the words that tolkien himself said. It is not a happy thing wormtongue, and saruman dying. no there is no joy in killing anything, save that which is evil. and they were once good, so they might have turned back.

Very true. This was definitely something Tolkien was for strongly, as you can see in some of the other characters. (the most obvious being Gollum)
It's all about pity, and being able to sympathise with those who appear to be your enemies and not kill without reason/needlessly.
In Frodo's case, because he did this he did not ''fail'' the quest, even though he claims the Ring, which makes him seem like a failure to the quest. The reason he isn't is simply because of his ability to pity Gollum and spare his life on so many occasions, which was what eventually led to the quest being fulfilled.

[Leggy]

yes that's true but the funny thing is that they killed themselves except for wormtongue and in a way they deserved it although i do see your side of it

[Arandur]

Tolkien was a *Catholic... cough cough . That's the whole thing. Just because someone apears to be evil doesn't mean they can't be saved. And people that give into temptation have the ability to realize their mistake and turn away from sin. It's all very simple if you think about it in the correct way. Frodo and Boromir have both come across temptation, gave in, then were redeemed after realizing their mistake. Of course Boromir died right after his redemption. But I would think it good to die after doing something bad, making amends, and being all heroic; so that's all reasonable to me.