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Post by The Restless Shadow on Apr 12, 2008 12:30:40 GMT -6
Some may say everthing that goes wrong in the movie is Saurons fault, or Saruman's for betraying the good guys. And sure, they all have their part's in the greater bad  But I'm watching The Two Towers again today, and it made me come to realise......It's all FARAMIR'S fault!!  Now don't get me wrong I'm a huge Faramir fan, always wil be. But the entire reason Smeagol went back to Gollum, was because of what happened in Ithillen (or maybe this is just a personal view lol) If that didn't happen, he wouldn't have sidetracked them so close to Minas Morgul, they wouldn't have gone to Shelob's lair (well, they wouldn't have been like shanghai'd when they got there  ) And they wouldn't have had to fight him for the ring once they GOT to Mt. Doom Just making an observation ;D |
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Post by Faramir on Apr 14, 2008 12:52:13 GMT -6
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Post by Nienna Greenleaf of Mirkwood on Apr 14, 2008 17:30:46 GMT -6
I guess that's one way of looking at it! Smeogol definitely went nuts after what happened when Faramir and his men captured him. Good observation!  Isn't it amazing that after watching those movies 1,000,000,000,000 times you actually notice something new?? ;D (And I just noticed that Yahoo is doing that weird thing again where it's not telling me when someone posts, so I will have to see what I missed with the other ones. ) |
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Post by The Restless Shadow on Apr 15, 2008 10:16:34 GMT -6
Mmmmhm, it can even show you that it's all a hero's fault ;D And aw, that sucks |
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Post by Nienna Greenleaf of Mirkwood on Apr 16, 2008 8:16:09 GMT -6
Poor Faramir. As if he wasn't blamed for so much by his own father, NOW even his biggest fans are accusing him of things he didn't even realize he was doing at the time! But here's a continuation of your theory...if we can blame Faramir for messing up Smeogol, and we can agree that Faramir acted this way because of orders given by his father and because he wished to earn his father's love (which, of course, was in vain), isn't it ALL Denethor's fault?? (And did anyone notice that we have something new under each post to tell us how many characters are remaining?? Who needs to be reminded!! ) |
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Post by The Restless Shadow on Apr 16, 2008 11:42:25 GMT -6
(lol, all proboard forums upgraded to a new version, there's quite a few new things around, and quite a few more to happen in the near future.)
And in reality, the only reason that he was like that was because of the Palantir, which in the end goes back to Sauron!
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Post by Nienna Greenleaf of Mirkwood on Apr 16, 2008 17:40:17 GMT -6
(lol, all proboard forums upgraded to a new version, there's quite a few new things around, and quite a few more to happen in the near future.) Oh goody ;D And in reality, the only reason that he was like that was because of the Palantir, which in the end goes back to Sauron! :oSHOCKING!! It made a circle, starting and ending with Sauron! Tolkien knew his stuff. ;D |
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Post by The Restless Shadow on Apr 28, 2008 22:22:20 GMT -6
ACTUALLY again lol Sauron kept going the evil route, because his Lord was Melkor, so it all goes back to the original evil! |
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Post by Nienna Greenleaf of Mirkwood on Apr 29, 2008 8:53:55 GMT -6
Amazing. ;D Tolkien is awesome.
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Post by The Restless Shadow on Apr 29, 2008 10:38:04 GMT -6
It all comes together  |
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Post by Faramir on Apr 30, 2008 22:40:57 GMT -6
ACTUALLY again lol Sauron kept going the evil route, because his Lord was Melkor, so it all goes back to the original evil! who  |
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Post by The Restless Shadow on May 7, 2008 20:36:33 GMT -6
I assume you're asking who Melkor was?
He was of the same order of the Valar and equal in power to Manwe(King of the Valar).
He was power hungry, and basicly the original evil force that threatened Arda.
And Sauron was his Maia.
(Maia's were helpers to the Vala, they all had one or two)
You can probablly find more on him on wikipedia ;D
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Post by Galuwen on Aug 2, 2009 10:04:18 GMT -6
It's sad, the cute ones all ways get the blame.
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